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3Peatkb24 wrote:lakerevolution wrote:I promised myself I would stop bashing LeBron. His extended time missed due to injury was the only suspect thing that bothered me. As far as where he'll land among the all-time greats, it'll always be debated. Certainly he, Kobe and the undisputed Jordan will always be in the discussion.
I know, I seem to come off as a LeBron hater but in reality I just list facts. LeBron is an all-time great and only a fool would say he isn't. Having said that, IMO he definitely isn't better than Jordan or Magic. Kobe/LeBron debate is reasonable but I like Kobe's killer instinct better. I would rather have Bird in crunch time to be honest if I need a huge shot and Kareem has a better resume than all of these guys. I would take Shaq over LeBron if I was starting a team as well. That is a short list of players I just threw out so my hate for LeBron is really overrated, I just question if he is top 5 ever. If I have LeBron 6th or 7th of all-time out of a million players, is that really being hater?.
In the end a lot of it is about winning championships. LeBron has 3 like Bird and Shaq has more with 4. Like in Football, I rank Peyton Manning the 3rd best QB ever because he wasn't as great as Brady or Montana when it counted. Peyton still won 2 SB's but Brady has 6 and Montana has 4. The only other QB's that have won more SB's than Peyton are Bradshaw with 4 and Aikman with 3 but those guys didn't have near the MVP's that Peyton had. Peyton won 5 MVP's, Bradshaw 1, Aikman 0. That shows the worth of those QB's. Bradshaw and Aikman were on stacked teams and basically just did not have to fuck it up.
3Peatkb24 wrote:Congrats to the Raptors on winning the East! Leonard is a special player
3Peatkb24 wrote:Go Raptors! They got Game 1, up 1-0. They have to win Game 2 as well. If they go up 2-0 then we have excitement, anxiety on the Warriors part and their fans. Hey Raptors, win this for Kobe, Shaq, Horry, Fish, and Phil. I want my 2002 Lakers to be remembered as the last 3Peat team.
lakerevolution wrote:3Peatkb24 wrote:Go Raptors! They got Game 1, up 1-0. They have to win Game 2 as well. If they go up 2-0 then we have excitement, anxiety on the Warriors part and their fans. Hey Raptors, win this for Kobe, Shaq, Horry, Fish, and Phil. I want my 2002 Lakers to be remembered as the last 3Peat team.
Warriors fans claim not to be worried, but their "We don't need KD" stance may be shifting. I do hope Toronto wins game 2 because it's going to be extremely difficult to win in Oakland. No more 2-3-2 format, though -- the NBA went back to 2-2-1-1-1 in 2013.
lakerevolution wrote:Just wrapped up on ESPN First Take with Stephen A., Max Kellerman and Molly. Snoop stopped by and there was enough Laker representation to piss off these opportunistic Warrior fans! Raptors in 6 (or maybe 5)!
lakerevolution wrote:A friend of mine (lifelong Dubs fan) told me before the Finals started that he thought the Raptors might pull a 2004 Detroit Pistons, and boy was he right. Toronto is for real, and though they still have to win one more game, they have proven to the world that they are worthy. The Steph angle (not an MVP when it counts) and the KD angle (more injured than reported and possibly gone to another team) only add fuel to the dumpster fire that the Dubs have become.
*side note - no "Raptors won't make White House visit" drama, they're not an American team so they can go visit their Canadian president!
lakerevolution wrote:3Peat great point!
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