KobeMVP888 wrote:The usually optimistic me doesn't believe so, but all of them can be very good players. I love Zu's potential, but then again I am partial to good old fashioned back to the basket centers. Next season will be telling. Too many cobwebs right now. Remember, this is Year 1 because Kobe was here last season and Randle was injured the year before. It makes sense that Clarkson seems further along.
3Peatkb24 wrote:KobeMVP888 wrote:The usually optimistic me doesn't believe so, but all of them can be very good players. I love Zu's potential, but then again I am partial to good old fashioned back to the basket centers. Next season will be telling. Too many cobwebs right now. Remember, this is Year 1 because Kobe was here last season and Randle was injured the year before. It makes sense that Clarkson seems further along.
1 major problem I am seeing is we have bad chemistry as a team. Russell and Clarkson really cant play together, that is why we should've drafted Okafor because we already had a Good player in Clarkson who could play the point. I would bet either Clarkson or Russell will be traded in the offseason. I think we will hang on to Ingram and we should. Ingram is a guy that has the potential of becoming Great. He is a tall wing that can shoot. He needs to add some weight but give him 2 more years and he will be the best player on the team unless we pick up a SuperStar in Free Agency. Russell is going into year 3 next season, I want to see more consistency out of him next year. Young are not, the media was hyping him up as the next best Point Guard in the league when he got Drafted. Some were saying he had Magic Johnson leadership qualities. I haven't seen it! Magic Johnson won the Championship at the age of 19 so age wasn't a factor with him. He even won Game 6 without Kareem to clinch the Finals. At 19 Magic already had the best leadership as a player in the league.
KobeMVP888 wrote:3Peatkb24 wrote:KobeMVP888 wrote:The usually optimistic me doesn't believe so, but all of them can be very good players. I love Zu's potential, but then again I am partial to good old fashioned back to the basket centers. Next season will be telling. Too many cobwebs right now. Remember, this is Year 1 because Kobe was here last season and Randle was injured the year before. It makes sense that Clarkson seems further along.
1 major problem I am seeing is we have bad chemistry as a team. Russell and Clarkson really cant play together, that is why we should've drafted Okafor because we already had a Good player in Clarkson who could play the point. I would bet either Clarkson or Russell will be traded in the offseason. I think we will hang on to Ingram and we should. Ingram is a guy that has the potential of becoming Great. He is a tall wing that can shoot. He needs to add some weight but give him 2 more years and he will be the best player on the team unless we pick up a SuperStar in Free Agency. Russell is going into year 3 next season, I want to see more consistency out of him next year. Young are not, the media was hyping him up as the next best Point Guard in the league when he got Drafted. Some were saying he had Magic Johnson leadership qualities. I haven't seen it! Magic Johnson won the Championship at the age of 19 so age wasn't a factor with him. He even won Game 6 without Kareem to clinch the Finals. At 19 Magic already had the best leadership as a player in the league.
Okafor sucks. They should have drafted Porzingis, but they pussied out. D'Angelo Russell plays tentative and confused, but his numbers are tracking like Kemba Walker, Kyle Lowry, Conley, Harden, Westbrook, etc. I think he is going to be solid once the light bulb goes on for good. Clarkson plays much harder than him, but he isn't going to improve much beyond what we are seeing, so he is the trade bait in my view. Then again, IF we keep our pick (the Law of Averages is against us though) AND we draft either Fultz or Ball, THEN we might wind up trading both Russell and Clarkson. I would certainly keep an open mind depending on the haul. Lottery Day can't come soon enough.
KobeMVP888 wrote:Jeff Teague is meh. Look at his career numbers and compare them to young D'Angelo's. Teague "came into his own" (12.6 ppg, 4.9 apg, 2.4 rpg, 1.6 spg, 33.1 mpg) in his third season when he was 23. D'Angelo Russell will be so much better than him. Russell's shooting percentage will improve dramatically and be at least as good as Teague's 44.7%. DLo's 36 mpg averages about on par with Teague already, including turnovers. It's the shooting percentage that needs to improve. Look at Kemba Walker's second season. Then again, I can see how the eye test would lead you to believe otherwise.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... uje01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... eda01.html
Jahlil Okafor will never get anywhere near an All-Star game. He can't defend and he's a mediocre rebounder at best. DLo has a better shot at an ASG than Okafor IMO.
3Peatkb24 wrote:KobeMVP888 wrote:Jeff Teague is meh. Look at his career numbers and compare them to young D'Angelo's. Teague "came into his own" (12.6 ppg, 4.9 apg, 2.4 rpg, 1.6 spg, 33.1 mpg) in his third season when he was 23. D'Angelo Russell will be so much better than him. Russell's shooting percentage will improve dramatically and be at least as good as Teague's 44.7%. DLo's 36 mpg averages about on par with Teague already, including turnovers. It's the shooting percentage that needs to improve. Look at Kemba Walker's second season. Then again, I can see how the eye test would lead you to believe otherwise.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... uje01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... eda01.html
Jahlil Okafor will never get anywhere near an All-Star game. He can't defend and he's a mediocre rebounder at best. DLo has a better shot at an ASG than Okafor IMO.
I hope you are right and I am wrong. I want Russell to pan out and be Very Good, if not Great. Teague's FG% is much better but you mentioned that, Teague is also much quicker going to the basket. I watch him nightly playing in Indy. He averages 15 Points and 8 Assists on a good team, if Teague was the #1 option on a bad team he could score 20 most games/average 20 IMO. Regarding Okafor, it depends on how Philly uses him whether or not he will become an All-Star. He hasn't got huge minutes because Embiid is on that team. He averaged 17 Points and 7 Rebounds as a rookie and shot 51% while Embiid was out- for todays Centers that is close to All-Star caliber. Since Embiid has been out again, he has had several Good games. Okafor's scoring per 36 minutes is close to 19 a game and he shoots 51%, last season it was 21. I am over not taking Okafor but I still think we should've drafted him instead of Russell as we already had Clarkson. Of course in hindsight we all can say Porzingis should've been the choice now because he's better than both.
KobeMVP888 wrote:3Peatkb24 wrote:KobeMVP888 wrote:Jeff Teague is meh. Look at his career numbers and compare them to young D'Angelo's. Teague "came into his own" (12.6 ppg, 4.9 apg, 2.4 rpg, 1.6 spg, 33.1 mpg) in his third season when he was 23. D'Angelo Russell will be so much better than him. Russell's shooting percentage will improve dramatically and be at least as good as Teague's 44.7%. DLo's 36 mpg averages about on par with Teague already, including turnovers. It's the shooting percentage that needs to improve. Look at Kemba Walker's second season. Then again, I can see how the eye test would lead you to believe otherwise.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... uje01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... eda01.html
Jahlil Okafor will never get anywhere near an All-Star game. He can't defend and he's a mediocre rebounder at best. DLo has a better shot at an ASG than Okafor IMO.
I hope you are right and I am wrong. I want Russell to pan out and be Very Good, if not Great. Teague's FG% is much better but you mentioned that, Teague is also much quicker going to the basket. I watch him nightly playing in Indy. He averages 15 Points and 8 Assists on a good team, if Teague was the #1 option on a bad team he could score 20 most games/average 20 IMO. Regarding Okafor, it depends on how Philly uses him whether or not he will become an All-Star. He hasn't got huge minutes because Embiid is on that team. He averaged 17 Points and 7 Rebounds as a rookie and shot 51% while Embiid was out- for todays Centers that is close to All-Star caliber. Since Embiid has been out again, he has had several Good games. Okafor's scoring per 36 minutes is close to 19 a game and he shoots 51%, last season it was 21. I am over not taking Okafor but I still think we should've drafted him instead of Russell as we already had Clarkson. Of course in hindsight we all can say Porzingis should've been the choice now because he's better than both.
I see it the other way around. Quick is one thing, but skills are another. If D'Angelo was on a good team, he would be a much more confident player. It is always better to be surrounded with superior talent. I like Lou better than Teague.
Julius Russell wrote:Russell is the best guard within 3 years of his age.
Ingram will also be a star.
Around 2022.
Porzingis is playing poorly btw. There was no fear in not picking KP. There was no film.
3Peatkb24 wrote: .. but Russell has these types of nights alot and for a #2 Draft pick that shouldn't happen very often.
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