Gm 32 - 12/22/16: Lakers at Heat GAME THREAD

Gm 32 - 12/22/16: Lakers at Heat GAME THREAD

Postby KobeMVP888 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:35 am

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Thursday, December 22, 2016, 5:00 PM PDT
American Airlines Arena

Referees: Ed Malloy (#14), Mark Lindsay (#29), Aaron Smith (#51)

Line: Heat -4.5


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GAME PREVIEW: LAKERS AT HEAT

HEAT SET TO HONOR SHAQ WITH LAKERS IN TOWN

BY NBA.COM

MIAMI -- Two of the proudest franchises in the NBA -- the Miami Heat and the Los Angeles Lakers -- will meet Thursday night at AmericanAirlines Arena, and neither one really wants to talk about the present.

The Heat own a 9-20 record, while the Lakers aren't that much better at 11-20.

The Lakers have won 16 NBA titles, the most recent in 2010. The Heat, who have a much shorter history having been founded in 1988, have three NBA championships, the most recent in 2013.

When they meet Thursday, part of the Lakers' and Heat's shared history will be on display. Former center Shaquille O'Neal, who played for both franchises, will have his jersey No. 32 retired by the Heat.

The Lakers, by the way, will unveil a 9-foot Shaq statue on March 24 at Staples Center, before a home game against the Minnesota Timberwolves.

O'Neal, alongside Dwyane Wade, helped the Heat win the 2006 NBA title. O'Neal averaged 19.6 points, 9.6 rebounds and 1.9 blocks in four seasons with Miami.

He gave ex-Laker Pat Riley his only title as a Heat coach. Later, in his current capacity as Heat president, Riley brought in LeBron James and Chris Bosh, paving the way for two more titles.

Now, though, the Heat has a mess on its hands. The latest loss was a 136-130, double-overtime setback Tuesday to the Orlando Magic, a team the Heat routinely trounced over the years.

Miami's Hassan Whiteside and Tyler Johnson each scored a career-high 32 points, and Whiteside added 15 rebounds and five blocks. However, those felt like empty numbers after such a bitter defeat.

"This was the most disappointing loss of the season because we had so many chances to win," Whiteside said.

Johnson's 32 points were the most ever scored by a Heat reserve.

Still, it was yet another loss for Miami, and Riley acknowledged on Wednesday that the Heat are frustrated.

Riley, speaking on the Miami radio show of WQAM's Joe Rose, mentioned the "R" word -- rebuilding.

"You can use the word rebuild," Riley said, "but we're going to do it fast. We love our young core, and what we have is flexibility. You need flexibility in this league to be able to move quickly. You can't get paralyzed by the (salary) cap. I think the No. 1 asset we have right now is flexibility."

The Lakers, meanwhile, are banking on a youth movement in the post-Kobe Bryant era.

Julius Randle, 22; D'Angelo Russell, 20; and Brandon Ingram, 19; are the young players the Lakers are relying on at the moment.

Randle, a 6-foot-9, 250-power forward and the seventh pick in the 2014 NBA Draft, is averaging 12.8 points and 8.6 rebounds.

Russell, a 6-5 point guard and the second pick in the 2015 draft, is averaging 15.0 points and 4.5 assists.

Ingram, a 6-9, 190-pound small forward and the second pick in the 2016 draft, is averaging 7.6 points and 4.0 rebounds.

"Whether they become what we hope they become," Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak told NBA TV in September, "that's up to them. But I think they want to become great players."

Unfortunately for the Lakers, they lost backup forward Larry Nance Jr. (knee) on Tuesday during a 117-113 loss to the Charlotte Hornets. Nance is averaging 7.0 points and 5.5 rebounds.

"That's going to be a tough loss," Lakers coach Luke Walton told The Los Angeles Times. "Larry gives us versatility. He is probably our smartest player in terms of reading defenses and the ability to cover for people."

In other story lines:

--The Heat had three injured perimeter players on the sideline against Orlando: Wayne Ellington (hamstring), Rodney McGruder (ankle) and Dion Waiters (groin). All three have started games for Miami this season.

--Lakers backup point guard Jose Calderon (hamstring) is out two to four weeks.

--Los Angeles backup center Tarik Black (left ankle) sat out the Hornets game.


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Re: Gm 32 - 12/22/16: Lakers at Heat GAME THREAD

Postby 3Peatkb24 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:34 am

3Peat checking in, this game is one of those 50/50 type of games.
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Re: Gm 32 - 12/22/16: Lakers at Heat GAME THREAD

Postby lakerevolution » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:52 pm

"Two of the proudest franchises in the NBA"???

Heat fans are "proud"???

ANYWAY.

We can win this, if we gave the same effort as we did last game. We need Deng doing his thing, Nick and Lou shooting lights out, Randle staying busy in the paint AND staying out of foul/turnover trouble, and of course Luke and Brian playing their best chess. WIN IT FOR JUNIOR!!!
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Re: Gm 32 - 12/22/16: Lakers at Heat GAME THREAD

Postby 3Peatkb24 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:59 pm

Here we go again blowing a huge lead. Heat within 9. We were up 19.
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Re: Gm 32 - 12/22/16: Lakers at Heat GAME THREAD

Postby 3Peatkb24 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:00 pm

Big 3 by Russ! Man we needed that. Lakers back up 10.
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Re: Gm 32 - 12/22/16: Lakers at Heat GAME THREAD

Postby lakerevolution » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:01 pm

Did you hear Luke on that "Audio Assist" clip on TNT coming back from the commercial? He had just wrapped up a timeout and as he peeled away from the huddle, he shouted, "I LOVE BAAASKETBAAALLL!!"
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Re: Gm 32 - 12/22/16: Lakers at Heat GAME THREAD

Postby 3Peatkb24 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:14 pm

Lakers lead 88-87 with 8 minutes to go. I hope we can pull this out, we have lost some games lately where we should've won. We were up big tonight but only up 1.
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Re: Gm 32 - 12/22/16: Lakers at Heat GAME THREAD

Postby 3Peatkb24 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:31 pm

We lack too major things, a consistent inside scoring presence and a Closer. We have blown 3 games I can think of right off hand because we haven't closed = Grizzlies, Hornets, and Heat. We could be 14-18 instead of 11-21 which is a major difference had we had a Closer.
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Re: Gm 32 - 12/22/16: Lakers at Heat GAME THREAD

Postby Julius Russell » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:20 pm

Without Nance and Black, the second unit lacks a ton of energy.


Add no Randle and Ingram is lost off the bench.
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Re: Gm 32 - 12/22/16: Lakers at Heat GAME THREAD

Postby 3Peatkb24 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:17 am

Julius Russell wrote:Without Nance and Black, the second unit lacks a ton of energy.


Add no Randle and Ingram is lost off the bench.


I guess I should give the Lakers a pass for last night since Randle didn't play but we still blew a big lead.
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Re: Gm 32 - 12/22/16: Lakers at Heat GAME THREAD

Postby KobeMVP888 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:22 am

The fact that they faded was quite predictable. D'Angelo Russell's knee concerns me. The Heat took advantage of him defensive deficiencies much like a good quarterback picks on a a crappy rookie cornerback. I think D'Angelo is limited and it's hurting us.

I hate to say this, but I am conflicted about the policy of allowing players time off to greet their newborns. Of course it's the absolute "right" thing to do, but these guys are compensated at levels that ordinary people can't relate to, so a part of me thinks they should be required to play until an actual day off (barring anything life endangering to the mother). Like I said, I understand the policy and I believe it is the "right" thing to do, but it bothers me.
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Re: Gm 32 - 12/22/16: Lakers at Heat GAME THREAD

Postby 3Peatkb24 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:33 am

KobeMVP888 wrote:The fact that they faded was quite predictable. D'Angelo Russell's knee concerns me. The Heat took advantage of him defensive deficiencies much like a good quarterback picks on a a crappy rookie cornerback. I think D'Angelo is limited and it's hurting us.

I hate to say this, but I am conflicted about the policy of allowing players time off to greet their newborns. Of course it's the absolute "right" thing to do, but these guys are compensated at levels that ordinary people can't relate to, so a part of me thinks they should be required to play until an actual day off (barring anything life endangering to the mother). Like I said, I understand the policy and I believe it is the "right" thing to do, but it bothers me.


We have had way too many guys missing games due to injuries or something else to really get into any kind of flow since we were 10-10. Russell's knee is really concerning that is why I posed the trade of Russell/Randle for Cousins if the Kings would do it, Kings may even want a Draft pick as well. That was just a hypothetical trade because Cousins isn't happy in Sacramento. I am not saying I would do that trade but it wouldn't be a bad trade for us at all IMO like Rev Posted. We would still have a main core of Clarkson, Lou, Ingram, Nance, and the best Center in the league in Cousins who is a Superstar. I have said all along that I think Ingram will end up better than Russell or Randle anyway, I still believe that despite his Rookie struggles.
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Re: Gm 32 - 12/22/16: Lakers at Heat GAME THREAD

Postby KobeMVP888 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:33 am

3Peatkb24 wrote:
KobeMVP888 wrote:The fact that they faded was quite predictable. D'Angelo Russell's knee concerns me. The Heat took advantage of him defensive deficiencies much like a good quarterback picks on a a crappy rookie cornerback. I think D'Angelo is limited and it's hurting us.

I hate to say this, but I am conflicted about the policy of allowing players time off to greet their newborns. Of course it's the absolute "right" thing to do, but these guys are compensated at levels that ordinary people can't relate to, so a part of me thinks they should be required to play until an actual day off (barring anything life endangering to the mother). Like I said, I understand the policy and I believe it is the "right" thing to do, but it bothers me.


We have had way too many guys missing games due to injuries or something else to really get into any kind of flow since we were 10-10. Russell's knee is really concerning that is why I posed the trade of Russell/Randle for Cousins if the Kings would do it, Kings may even want a Draft pick as well. That was just a hypothetical trade because Cousins isn't happy in Sacramento. I am not saying I would do that trade but it wouldn't be a bad trade for us at all IMO like Rev Posted. We would still have a main core of Clarkson, Lou, Ingram, Nance, and the best Center in the league in Cousins who is a Superstar. I have said all along that I think Ingram will end up better than Russell or Randle anyway, I still believe that despite his Rookie struggles.


I agree.
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