tate793 wrote:I think the players that belong ahead of Bird are:
Magic
Jordan
Kobe
Lebron
Kareem
Duncan
Shaq
NuggetsCountry wrote:It makes me SMH when listening to BSPN type. They already forgot Kobe played basketball in the Lebrons era!!! A couple of them started listing off the best players ever and didn't even come to Kobe in their top 20, they did off their head. It is one of the reasons I hate the WWE quality of the NBA these days.
tate793 wrote:Yay! 3Peat is fiiiiiiiiiiiinally getting it right!
I think Wilt, West, Baylor and Oscar all go above Bird. Russell was, basically, a one-trick-pony. Defense (2 tricks, if you count rebounding). But, still, made more of a mark on the NBA than Bird. As for pure talent, I'd put Rick Barry, Pistol Pete and Drazen Petrovic over Bird, too.
tate793 wrote:One more thing, you like to say that Bird woulda won more championships if it weren't for having to play against Magic's Lakers. Well, consider this. How many more championships would West and Baylor have if they didn't have to play against Bill Russell's Celtics?
tate793 wrote:Ok, Nuggs. I see what you're saying. Bird + HOFers is better than just Wilt. But, individually, Bird does not measure up to the most dominant force to ever lace em' up.
BTW - How're you doing?
3Peatkb24 wrote:Here's probably the accurate list out of the players I have seen live. I will let Tate insert Wilt, Elgin, West, Big-O, and Russell
1. Jordan/ and I know Tate has Kobe #1 but these are just my opinions.
2. Magic
3. Kareem
4. Kobe
5. LeBron
6. Shaq
7. Duncan
8. Bird
-Tate insert where Wilt, Elgin, West, Big-O, and Russell should go and adjust this list. I will say this, Hakeem cant be ignored either but I think we agree Bird is 8th out of who I have seen in my era = basically since the mid 80's when I was in Highschool to now. I cant even debate with you anymore after what I seen last night, I am out of gas
tate793 wrote:You finally got a list right. Congratulations.
3Peatkb24 wrote:3Peatkb24 wrote:Here's probably the accurate list out of the players I have seen live. I will let Tate insert Wilt, Elgin, West, Big-O, and Russell
1. Jordan/ and I know Tate has Kobe #1 but these are just my opinions.
2. Magic
3. Kareem
4. Kobe
5. LeBron
6. Shaq
7. Duncan
8. Bird
-Tate insert where Wilt, Elgin, West, Big-O, and Russell should go and adjust this list. I will say this, Hakeem cant be ignored either but I think we agree Bird is 8th out of who I have seen in my era = basically since the mid 80's when I was in Highschool to now. I cant even debate with you anymore after what I seen last night, I am out of gas
I will just leave it at - out of the players I have seen live since the late 70's = 1977-2016 to now (basically 40 years of Basketball):
1. Jordan
2. Magic
3. Kareem
4. Kobe
5. LeBron
6. Shaq
7. Duncan
8. Bird
9. Hakeem
10. is debatable. Moses probably belongs here but you could put Karl here or Doctor J. This is even a list Tate can live with LOL. I will give it to Moses at #10. Karl not winning a Championship is bothersome. He is the Dan Marino of Basketball.
tate793 wrote:Just the sheer volume of the points Karl scored puts him in the conversation.
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