Ben Simmons vs Brandon Ingram

[Lakers4Life]

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[3Peatkb24]

The only thing Simmons lacks is a consistent outside shot but that can come in time. I don't think we can go wrong with either player. I would rather have Simmons but if we pick 2nd and Ingram is there I will be fine with that. Just having the 2nd pick would give us so many options, as in we could even trade it for a Good proven player possibly if another team really loves Ingram. I hope some how we get Simmons but he is going #1. Is there any chance we can get the number #1 pick finishing 2nd worse per the PingPong balls? If so what is that %?

[KobeMVP888]

Is there any chance we can get the number #1 pick finishing 2nd worse per the PingPong balls? If so what is that %?

19.9%

[3Peatkb24]

Is there any chance we can get the number #1 pick finishing 2nd worse per the PingPong balls? If so what is that %?

19.9%

Thanks Kenny, I wasn't sure what the % was. 20% isn't good but that could still happen. If not just keeping the Top 3 is huge anyway.

[lakerevolution]

We need that Clippers/Cavs luck with the ping pong balls.

[Lakers4Life]

Here's the case for Ingram:



Ingram is 14 months younger than Simmons, has a longer wingspan by four inches and a standing reach six and a half inches higher. Ingram is a better shooter – which is perhaps the most important skill in today’s NBA – and has shown a much better trajectory throughout the college season. The intel on Ingram as a teammate and competitor has been much stronger than Simmons’. Yes, Ingram has a much more frail frame now, but it’s easy to envision him filling out as he ages and matures.

[3Peatkb24]

Here's the case for Ingram:



Ingram is 14 months younger than Simmons, has a longer wingspan by four inches and a standing reach six and a half inches higher. Ingram is a better shooter – which is perhaps the most important skill in today’s NBA – and has shown a much better trajectory throughout the college season. The intel on Ingram as a teammate and competitor has been much stronger than Simmons’. Yes, Ingram has a much more frail frame now, but it’s easy to envision him filling out as he ages and matures.

If we end up with Ingram it wont be a bad thing at all. I like him as well.

[KobeMVP888]

That pick is one helluva trade chip, too. Alternatively, it could put one or more of our toddlers into play on the trade market instead. It will be interesting to see what happens should the Ping Pong Ball gods not fuck us in the ass.

[Lakers4Life]

The more I think about it the more I hope that we get Ingram. (Even though Simmons has the talent to be the next Lebron & end up being better).

Isn't shooting the most important thing in this new NBA? And Ingram already is one of the best shooters in college basketball. While Simmons is one of the worst. Could Simmons eventually become respectful at the outside shot like Lebron finally did? Sure. But.... it's not guaranteed.

Besides that, Ingram is getting a Duke, coach K education. He's learning how to play the game the right way.

Simmons? He seems a little pre-maddona-ish to me. I'm afraid that his head is so big that he could turn into the NBA version of Johnny "Football" Manziel.

Ingram is younger and will bulk up in a few years. Simmons, critics are questioning if he has an attitude problem.

Of course I'll roll my dice with either one. But if we are "forced" to pick Ingram with the 2nd pick it might just end up being the best choice.

What so you think?

[3Peatkb24]

The more I think about it the more I hope that we get Ingram. (Even though Simmons has the talent to be the next Lebron & end up being better).

Isn't shooting the most important thing in this new NBA? And Ingram already is one of the best shooters in college basketball. While Simmons is one of the worst. Could Simmons eventually become respectful at the outside shot like Lebron finally did? Sure. But.... it's not guaranteed.

Besides that, Ingram is getting a Duke, coach K education. He's learning how to play the game the right way.

Simmons? He seems a little pre-maddona-ish to me. I'm afraid that his head is so big that he could turn into the NBA version of Johnny "Football" Manziel.

Ingram is younger and will bulk up in a few years. Simmons, critics are questioning if he has an attitude problem.

Of course I'll roll my dice with either one. But if we are "forced" to pick Ingram with the 2nd pick it might just end up being the best choice.

What so you think?

I am really good either as well. I do see Ben Simmons with the potential of a LeBron, remember LeBron couldn't shoot either when he first came in and still struggles with his jumpshot at times as a Veteran. In Simmons I see unmatched raw talent and see a prospect that is probably better than Wiggins. Having said that Ingram is the better shooter and I think would be more NBA ready in season 1. Being Coached by Coach K definitely is great thing as well. I don't think Simmons was used right at LSU and he still averaged great numbers. I watched LSU play a couple of times and there were times where he didn't even touch the ball in several minute stretches. If I was coaching that team every play would be ran through him.

[Lakers4Life]

Ingram NOT Simmons is projected by ESPN as the best player in this draft

In spite of Ingram’s impressive skill set, he isn’t the odds-on favorite to be taken first in the 2016 NBA Draft. Instead, LSU’s Ben Simmons is projected to be the top pick by the Philadelphia 76ers. Simmons’ versatility, passing, and ability to run the floor are certainly enticing, and he spent the entire college season as the favorite to be the first player off the board.

However, according to ESPN Analytics Specialists Sharon Katz and Paul Sabin, the belief that Simmons is the best prospect in the draft is wrong:

Despite the consensus among scouts, these projections question whether Simmons is truly the best player in the class. Ingram has the highest draft grade, based on total projected SPM, and he is most likely to play at the level of an All-Star or starter during his first five seasons.

That Ingram rates so highly shouldn’t be that surprising considering his skill set and age (he is 14 months younger than Simmons), but it is a bit jarring nonetheless. With the draft less than two weeks away, almost everyone has had the Sixers locked in on Simmons. Though the analytics believe Simmons has nearly as much upside as Ingram, they believe it comes with a greater risk:

In comparison, Simmons has similar upside, but he comes with a far greater risk. In fact, among the top 10 college prospects in the projections, no player had a higher bust potential than Simmons.

Currently, Brandon Ingram is projected to end up with the Los Angeles Lakers with the second overall pick. He worked out for the team on Thursday and sat down to chat with Lakers higher-ups at dinner the night before.

It has been reported that Ingram will work out for Philadelphia on Monday, and with Simmons still not scheduling workouts with any teams it’s always possible that the Sixers change their minds. Either way, the Lakers will be adding a young, talented player to their squad on June 23rd, but whether it will be Simmons or Ingram may be a bit more up in the air than most think.

[3Peatkb24]

Ingram NOT Simmons is projected by ESPN as the best player in this draft

In spite of Ingram’s impressive skill set, he isn’t the odds-on favorite to be taken first in the 2016 NBA Draft. Instead, LSU’s Ben Simmons is projected to be the top pick by the Philadelphia 76ers. Simmons’ versatility, passing, and ability to run the floor are certainly enticing, and he spent the entire college season as the favorite to be the first player off the board.

However, according to ESPN Analytics Specialists Sharon Katz and Paul Sabin, the belief that Simmons is the best prospect in the draft is wrong:

Despite the consensus among scouts, these projections question whether Simmons is truly the best player in the class. Ingram has the highest draft grade, based on total projected SPM, and he is most likely to play at the level of an All-Star or starter during his first five seasons.

That Ingram rates so highly shouldn’t be that surprising considering his skill set and age (he is 14 months younger than Simmons), but it is a bit jarring nonetheless. With the draft less than two weeks away, almost everyone has had the Sixers locked in on Simmons. Though the analytics believe Simmons has nearly as much upside as Ingram, they believe it comes with a greater risk:

In comparison, Simmons has similar upside, but he comes with a far greater risk. In fact, among the top 10 college prospects in the projections, no player had a higher bust potential than Simmons.

Currently, Brandon Ingram is projected to end up with the Los Angeles Lakers with the second overall pick. He worked out for the team on Thursday and sat down to chat with Lakers higher-ups at dinner the night before.

It has been reported that Ingram will work out for Philadelphia on Monday, and with Simmons still not scheduling workouts with any teams it’s always possible that the Sixers change their minds. Either way, the Lakers will be adding a young, talented player to their squad on June 23rd, but whether it will be Simmons or Ingram may be a bit more up in the air than most think.

I love both. It's like choosing between LeBron and Durant. Thankfully for us there are potentially 2 great players in this Draft and not 1.